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  A New Trend for JW Baby Boomers?

  by NYCkid in

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  i'm sure this topic has come up before but i'm new here :-) since many of us are offspring of the baby boomer generation or of a generation earlier, i've noticed a trend.

  my parents and their siblings who largely grew up as witnesses are now entering or have entered retirement age.

  although my parents were generally hard working and responsible people, they have little retirement savings.

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  Oh and one more thing, an article in my college newspaper in October featured a bethelite "sister" who is attending my school to study political science and woman issues (um what's wrong with this picture???), she had won an award. Anyway a friend of mine knows her, she lives at bethel with her husband who is a bethel dentist. How much do you want to bet that Bethel is paying for her education?

  ???? Ok this makes no sense. I mean, I know they sent Bethelites to college to become lawyers, they need lawyers. Why would they be sending a 'sister' to college to study political science and womens issues? Even if they are not paying her tuition, if she is living at Bethel, they are supporting her somewhat.

  Even leaving out the Bethel piece of it, a JW 'sister' going to college? for political science? womens issues?

  Maybe her husband has some kind of skill they need and can't find anywhere else.. Or they have some connections...

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  Watchtower baptises mentally ill ?

  by oldflame in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does the wtachtower baptise the mentally ill ?

  it sure seems like it with all the new freaks here making claims of being prophets and jesus etc.....is this how low they will go to get their numbers up ?

  it really makes me wonder.......

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  I don't really understand the point of this question. What does mental illness have to do with whether a person can become a JW or not? Why are you putting people with mental illness in some kind of special category? If they for some reason did not baptise people based on their mental condition(and who is going to decide that?) then you would be hollering that they are discriminating.

  Besides what are they going to do, tell baptismal candidates: "Prove you're not mentally ill!" ???

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  All messed up, please help !!!!!!!!!!

  by Genesis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this morning i wrote about panic crisis so i think i have one now.

  i was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :.

  i could not help but feel for you very much.

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  I am now 68, have been in the truth and baptised at 13, and still find it easy to respect and love the brotherhood.

  The brotherhood is not the problem, its the two-faced liars at the top running the show that most of here have issues with. All his scriptural examples overlook the fact that once Jehovah moved on to using a new organization, it was up to the individuals to realize this and move along too, i.e. the Jews in the 1st century had to become part of the Christian congregation once it was clear that the nation of Israel was no longer his org. He also overlooks the fact that a person is bloodguilty if they are part of a bloodguilty organization- Rev 18:4-8*

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  *this of course all assumes you still accept the Bible as some kind of inspired mutterings.
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  (UN)Expected development

  by InquiryMan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  part 1: my family and i stopped being active witnesses some 3 and a half years ago.

  we did the fade thing, thus we are neither das nor df.

  before we stopped, i served as an elder.

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  InquiryMan,

  Make sure your father understands that he is potentially shooting himself in the foot. Does he realize that shunning works both ways, and that he may be cut off from his grandchildren???

  I agree with Gary, if I had kids and my parents decided to shun me, they would have no further contact with my kids.

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  Is Blood Now 'The Tail Wagging The Dog'?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few years ago, the organization seemed to be drifting towards reason.

  the knowledge book downplayed holidays and blood.. witness kids were told they could go to college.

  the new worship book - as a re-edited "united" book - removed all mention of.

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  Sir82, I like your theory. Back in 2001 I was just starting to lurk here, I remember all the speculation going on about this "special" meeting that was to be held. And then afterwards, the letdown when there was no "big news" announced. Deja vu, huh?

  I can see where 9/11 may have been at least partly responsible for a shift towards a more hardline stance. Whether or not it the special meeting had anything to do with blood and the blood card fiasco... who can say?

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  Journal of Church and State: WT NO-BLOOD EXPOSE'

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (baylor university, waco, tx) an essay entitled, "jehovah's witnesses, blood transfusions, and the tort of misrepresentation," found in the autumn issue of baylor universitys prestigious journal of church and state, published december 13, 2005, exposes the vulnerability of jehovahs witnesses religious organization to massive claims for compensation because of the religions misrepresentation of the medical risks of blood transfusions.

  this milestone essay critically examines one of the religions main publications for teaching their children and new recruits about their blood beliefs, how can blood save your life?

  the peer-reviewed essay details many misrepresentations of medical facts, which the religion partly relies on to support its blood prohibition, thus denying its members from making fully informed medical decisions.

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  This is it??? This is the big news????

  Sure it *may* open the way for a lawsuit, but who is going to sue? I can guarantee you that 99% of the JW families that have lost family members will still believe they were doing what Jehovah wanted. They would never imagine suing the Society over it. And if they do, the Society will reply with, we never told you to refuse blood! We only told you how Jehovah feels about it, you made your own decision using your Bible-based conscience.

  It says so right on the blood card: "I ____________ have chosen to abstain from blood." And then it has a signature at the bottom with two witnesses.

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  The experience of a Christian elder found in todays WT study

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when we studied this para in todays watchtower i found it hard to believe that an elder would think this way, what do you think?

  16 yes, no matter what dark valley we may find ourselves in, we do not have to walk through it alone.

  our shepherd is with us, helping us in ways that we may.

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  Keep in mind too, in JW-think, for a person to question Jehovah, while indicating weakness, is still not as bad as to question the organization...

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  It Seems That My Children Are Not Trained

  by Gary1914 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just returned home from the kingdom hall.

  i am an elder.. after the meeting all the elders were called to the back room.

  i thought this was an impromptu elders' meeting.

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  Gary,

  Elders are cowards. Ignore their "counsel" and keep dealing with your kids the way you see fit. If they confront you again, tell them they can mind their own business, and that if they have a problem with that, you are more than ready to "step down". Odds are they will back off, and if they do remove you from the elder body, hey, thats a win for you too.

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  Time again for........ Congregation roll call

  by Jourles in

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  2. experiences

  it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.

  use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.

  1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??

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  1980-1986 Sauk Centre, MN

  1986-1992 Park Rapids, MN

  1992-1998 Fargo North/Fargo South, ND

  1998-1999 Inver Grove Heights, MN

  1999-2002 Ham Lake, MN

  2002- I just wave the finger at any KH I drive by...

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  CHEERS South Park TV Show anti-cult

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. social
  2. current

  press method (press release) - plto,ca,usa .

  (clips of this ...

  11/23/2005 south park tv show staff named as factnet person(s) of the year for 2005 for their recent scientology tom cruise john travolta episode.

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  That was an awesome South Park episode! Although the whole Tom Cruise in the closet subplot - yes we get it, rumor is that Tom is gay, yes, "come out of the closet Tom", haha ok it was only funny the first two or three times...

  But I was thinking the same thing, pretty ballsy attack on Scientologists. I'm sure there are at least a couple lawyers at Comedy Central that were sweating over this episode.

  Now let's see them do an episode where we learn that Butters is a JW. It would explain a lot.

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